The Herberts V Andy Tyrrell

**noodlebay** · January 27th, 2003, 02:43 PM

For some bizarre reason I thought this was between Andy Tyrell and the Herberts and now everyones talking about the constitution and stuff which I try to leave behind me when I walk out of my law lesson and then remember again when I sit exams. Anyway, I hear about this discussion off Matt and although he nicked my email addy to be able to use this I used my alternative one to be able to join because THE NEW KID has pissed me off loads with his dumb ass comment about making drugs MORE illegal and saying stuff about the monarchy! So yeah, the rest of this is mainly a load of shit in reply to that... but it had to be said [img]smile.gif[/img]
1: Why would the monarch give Royal Assent to a bill which would firstly have to get the winning vote in Parliament to get rid of the monarchy anyway? She'd call a referendum to let the voice of the people decide and although the majority of people on here are saying that the monarchys shit, the majority of England are PROUD of the monarchy and the constitution we live in!
2: Why the fuck would you want to make drugs MORE illegal? Kids today are probably more likely to smoke dope because they think they're rebelling, thats why in the 70's more people smoked ciggarettes more than they do today, coz they're not following the law and breaking it in the smallest way possible... thus "rebelling against the system". If you made drugs more legal then there wouldn't be:
a) dodgy dealings where PEOPLE (not just kids) get ripped off which with harder drugs can lead to overdosing and what not.
b) half as many kids smoking shit like dope.
c) Little children finding dirty needles every fucking where because ther would be places wher junkies could go to do it, thus clean needles.
d) half as much AIDS in the world as people wouldn't be using each other dirty, AIDS infested needles and spreading the disease which has infected so many innocent people as well as people who do swap needles (although AIDS spreads for other reasons as well... but they're not important to my point so lets forget them (",) )

If you think I'm typing shit then i'm typing shit but look at places like Holland where ther are places for drugs and legalised prostitution, thers less chances of people finding dirty needles and so on and so forth. It takes the scum off the streets and puts it into places where no harm can come to the innocent. The trouble with Britain is that we think its wrong so we should punish those who do it and thats STUPID! it goes on, it always will, always has (especially prostitution) so you may as well accept it and make things like that MORE legal to take away the "rebellion" aspect of it as well as the scummy, seedy side away as well. Thus it makes it a safer environment and also puts kids education of what really is wrong and what is right down to the parents. That was what it was like when I was younger and it hasn't done me any harm because although I know I am only 16 I also know that going out and smoking ciggarettes which I can buy is bad for me! Kids ain't stupid, which also leads me on to things like teenage pregnancy. I know if I had unprotected sex then the likely scenario could be: I'd get a STI or i'd fall pregnant. My mum and dad taught me that, not some shitty school sex ed class, not the fact that sex under 16 is illegal but MY MUM AND DAD! So... therefore if you make things like drugs more legal it puts things to do with drugs being harmful down to the parents to teach and that should be what the parent does teach as well as morals, manners and how to live in this shitty world we call earth [img]smile.gif[/img] .
* sorry but thats my opinion and it just pisses me off when people are blind to the obvious truth because they're just simply sharing the stupid pathetic view of the British people * Being british ISNT anything to be proud of anymore, thers too many do-gooders here now who are trying to move into the "21st century" like its some sort of retro wave of niceness... its a cruel world and we're living it, the nice guys always get hurt, and, the world that OUR GENERATION lives in is seeing that now with all the asylum seekers etc that are coming here. The real British are being wiped out! and NO THATS NOT ME BEING RACIST BECAUSE THERS COLOURED BRITISH PEOPLE OUT THER AS WELL LIKE IAN WRIGHT... they accept ther british culture and don't try livin here with culture from wherever they originated from! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Anyway... why has this discussion suddenly jumped from Andy Tyrell V the Herberts to drugs? lol

**rootlessrose** · January 27th, 2003, 02:45 PM

i had an idea but it seems ot have slipt so ill jus agree wiht the last two replys!

**ALPUNK** · January 27th, 2003, 02:50 PM

This is really boring the fuck out of me wer supposed to be in a punk band not a sodding knit and natter or something.

**noodlebay** · January 27th, 2003, 02:57 PM

punk comes with political aspects though, it did when it was alive so it will now as well, you must have expected something like this [img]smile.gif[/img]
*nat*

**rootlessrose** · January 27th, 2003, 03:01 PM

well stop goin on about stuff then get on with it

**Jonny W.K** · January 27th, 2003, 05:38 PM

If the kids that are smoking cannabis now, to rebel, 'realize' that *if/when* its legalized that they are, in fact, NO LONGER rebelling they will move onto something that would be rebelling, such as cocaine. Call me a fool, but I'd rather have 1,000,000 kids smoking weed than doing crack.

This is the longest going for/against drug argument there is. Legalize it, people will move onto harder stuff. Dont legalize it, people will break the law. At least the people currently breaking the law are stoned and dont give a shit.

And wont all those out-of-jobs cannabis dealers have to sell harder shit to keep up their 'Banging' lifestyle?

**DJ-Ants** · January 27th, 2003, 06:10 PM

I dont think people smoke dope to rebel anymore...if anything they do it to conform...
Besides..if people are stupid enough to do crack,heroin etc...then surely they deserve the punishment that addiction provides...as well as funding the police more to curb their twocking tendancies..

Call me right wing...but killing foxes etc..is permitted because they are "vermin".Many judges have referred to theives/burglars as vermin..you see my point?

**spiritualized** · January 27th, 2003, 07:20 PM

Since when did people smoke dope to rebel or to conform? Last time I smoked dope was because it felt good and made music sound better

**the new kid** · January 27th, 2003, 07:49 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Daniel Bedingfield:
Since when did people smoke dope to rebel or to conform? Last time I smoked dope was because it felt good and made music sound better</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE> i dont beleive that.... the first time it is to rebel against your parents etc and conform with your "really cool" stoner friends....and after that its cuz youve let urself get hooked because ur daft